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adam of phyrexia · Sep 01, 2007, 03:31 PM // 15:31

bit late but, I think CAT (in which I held this contest) is still looking for new members, especially considering they've expanded to two guilds now
Warning! It's an FFF guild!
If ya wanna join why don't ya give aso sin a call.

Darkhell153 · Sep 01, 2007, 04:38 PM // 16:38

how bout these ones? they look pretty evil...demonic...well they look like they'd nick your purse at least :P

System_Crush · Sep 01, 2007, 05:10 PM // 17:10

I got one that hints lady-luck pretty well.
Rejected it as art for my acrobat.
But you might like it.
A link, 'cuz I didn't ask the artist.

[M]agna_[C]arta · Sep 01, 2007, 10:03 PM // 22:03

FFF Guild?
And who will I pm^^?

Does that say Ladyluck?, Here is what I am looking for^^!
Okay, The Rouge is a Happy go lucky-thief raised as a street urchin stealing from people to feed her fellow orphan friends in the orphanage. Risking her life for the sake of her friends. People say they are created with luck, while the rouge has 2 reasons for having this luck, 1st as what was said above, 2nd they trained themselves from gambling, which increases her luck. She also trained herself deception to run away from the guards.

Who here watches Full Metal Alchemist, Well do you know Psiren?
Who here plays FFX/-2?, Well do you know the Ladyluck DS.
Who here watches Batman, Well do you know Joker and Harlequin?

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Darkhell153 · Sep 01, 2007, 11:47 PM // 23:47

(just as an fyi, rogues never steal for others unless they are part of a group, the whole robbinhood myth is dumb in that aspect. Rogues steal for themselves, for their own wealth, for their own gain, and they kill fo the same reasons. No one with any common sense will ever accept a "good" rogue into the game) that being said I think you should carefully think of the background you give your characters, a rogue is a villain who fights for himself, a deciever who disguises himself to steal from the rich...and the poor. If anything else is put into any game, then the makers are worthless to the core. and yes I know I'm repeating myself but I don't have anything else to do so I'm bored :P

System_Crush · Sep 02, 2007, 12:18 AM // 00:18

And you're repeating a mistake, rogue by dictionary means rule breaker/unconventional/refusing of tradition.

Even thought the underlying base of the D&D inspired rogue is a skill full and sneaky thief, even that system allows you to mold them into different forms.
In making a concept we aren't bound to the limits of any system.

So why should we stick to the hounding thief(rogue city slickers)
A charlatan(rogue merchant) or a swashbuckler(rogue warrior) should be just as usable for a CC, even a rogue archaeologist could be the basis of a class named rogue.

Quote:

Who here watches Full Metal Alchemist, Well do you know Psiren?

Is that the snake half chimera? otherwise; Damn my corrupted media streams.

Quote:

Who here plays FFX/-2?, Well do you know the Ladyluck DS.

Got bored with it 2 quickly never even saw that one.

Quote:

Who here watches Batman, Well do you know Joker and Harlequin?

Now I do know who those are, even with the wide view of rule breakers, I get a dirty taste in my mouth putting 'Raven my awesome Sword dancer D&D rogue' in a line up with a carnival clown, or a smelly guy that has a stand for people to gamble on at the town fair. 'Cuz that is what the look of joker and especially that of his ***** make me think of, not sneaking, stealing or sticking blades in someone's back, but pretty obvious cons, with little or no diversity, nothing like the flamboyant mistyque a rule breaker deserves to have.

Darkhell153 · Sep 02, 2007, 12:44 AM // 00:44

there's another really good reason the rogue should be evil System...we have too freakin' many of these goodie two shoes classes! I want some more bad to the bone emo/demented classes so us bloodthirsty guys can put more of our own personality into our character...(I'm sick of paragon, monk, dervish, ritualist...all these stupid holy classes. It's boring dangit!!!) so I think the Gw rogue should be evil...otherwise it'll get boring very fast.

adam of phyrexia · Sep 02, 2007, 01:15 AM // 01:15

Dude, it's good for a class to have a certain good/bad allegiance, but idk how you could think that making a class pure evil would allow players to better project themselves upon their chars, playing evil chars is fun but it's roleplaying in the most basic sense of the word (at least for sane majority, yes that includes all you wannabe fruitcakes).
And what you got against holy classes?
If you think holy makes you 'good' you're way off.
Being bound to the holy element just means you're bound to the servitude of a god of light, that god may very well be a tyrannic demon.
And even if he isn't, I shouldn't have to point out what people can do for a 'good' god
A good ingame example are the white mantle.
Outwards they posses all the traits of a paladin, white, shining armor, highly disciplined, true believers of their cause.
You know the other side of the medal.

Other than that I'd like to add that as far as rogues go, yours are seriously gay, oliver twist kinda gay. What's worse is that after reading 'orphans+rogues' I can't get this horrid song about ripe strawberries out of my head, thx a lot =/

[M]agna_[C]arta · Sep 02, 2007, 02:00 AM // 02:00

@SC
This is more of a Charlant
No, Thats the Woman who uses Alchemy for Thievery, And she keeps on tricking Elic and Al tha shes Good^^.

@Darkhell
If you want a Evil character go play a different game why would a Good Guy want to save the world.
The only bad people turned good is the Corsair Hero and her Sister.
Unsure with Eve, Well she fought other gils when she was in grade/high school^^.
But their was never a Bad Guy helping save the world.
Maybe in GW2 they migh add a Good or Badd Allegiance System like in Fable^^.

@adam
Other words they are a Robin Hood kind of Rouge

Darkhell153 · Sep 02, 2007, 01:20 PM // 13:20

*Necromancers are evil, and if you think about it they're the only class that actually gives anyone the ability to be evil. For some reason I doubt guild wars will add another good class into the game (especially since they already added so many holy classes) but I expect that if they use this class, your version of their background is going to be ripped apart and redone :P*

[M]agna_[C]arta · Sep 02, 2007, 01:38 PM // 13:38

Correction Necromancers aren't Evil^^.
You can't judge a Persons looks, abilities and such(except if it's a contest or such^^).
But judge a persons intentions and deeds, and whats evil about summoning the dead and cursing people? Well for cursing hey it's a game and they use it for good against evil.
Yes, their have been have been evil Necro also evil Dervishes/Paragon(Varesh).
But I am talking about you're character/CC.
If you want to make an Evil Class, then that CCs storyline in the whole entire story is a bad guy.
Most people wouldn't like to play a game which storyline is to destroy and entire world or control it.
Would they?
But if they make GW2 like WoW with the Good Side and Bad then maybe they'll make a Class, Evil^^.

System_Crush · Sep 02, 2007, 03:20 PM // 15:20

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Originally Posted by [M]agna_[C]arta

Most people wouldn't like to play a game which storyline is to destroy and entire world or control it.

Depends, I would I kinda like that; I'm actually glad that they didn't completely ban Manhunt2.
Not that a ban would have stopped me form getting it

Necro's aren't evil by default, although they do edge towards it.
Grenth requires them to be just, they can be harsh or cruel, but cannot harm innocents without worrying for their god's retribution.
(Lyssa doesn't have that rule, by the way, most of the other gods do have some care for normal people, although I'm not sure on Baltazar)

And an evil person doesn't help the other baddies, those are their minions, who are misguided or foolish but not inherently evil.
Evil people will likely help the good guys stop the end of the world; or preferably trick the good guys into helping them stop the end of the world.

Because and evil person wouldn't let another have another destroy the world before they had achieved whatever evil goals they had set for themselves. Or simply to lengthen their lives, because evil men never die peacefully.
Let alone that they would let the other evil guy strike with the honor of succeeding his ultimate evil goals.

In the spirit of fighting fire with fire, evil characters would work fine in GW.

Pericles · Sep 02, 2007, 03:35 PM // 15:35

Magna Carta you are so pathetic!, i've got this funny game for every1 who reads your posts, here's how it goes:
you count the times Magna Carta used this ' ^^ ' in his post. You use this so much it actually starts getting creepy! Also plz stop suggesting these Anime stuff, not everyone likes naruto and bleach. Maybe you should actually start playing GW and check out the other sub-forums.
^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^

adam of phyrexia · Sep 02, 2007, 03:36 PM // 15:36

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Originally Posted by [M]agna_[C]arta

Most people wouldn't like to play a game which storyline is to destroy and entire world or control it.
Would they?
make a Class, Evil^^.

So on what planet have you been living xD?
PPL <3 being evil and gaining power.
In the beginning of factions I was convinced (or at least I hoped) that if we really tryed, the kurzicks could bring down the whole luxon civilization, I was even giving evil monologues after every victory.
And what was the name of that game again where you had to build up a crime syndicate and become king of the underworld while murdering hundreds of innocents just to fight the boredom? GTA? NW if you havn't heard of it, not like it was a HUGE success or nuttin...

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Originally Posted by Pericles

you count the times Magna Carta used this ' ^^ ' in his post. You use this so much it actually starts getting creepy!

So I'm not the only one who thought that was weird? Neat

[M]agna_[C]arta · Sep 02, 2007, 10:17 PM // 22:17

@Pericles
Pericles, I think you are the one who's pathetic.
Striking on a Kid for just using "^^".

@Adam
Well I wouldn't play a MMORPG which storyline is to destroy a God of Good.
Or take over the world.
Then it would be odd when people would be saying after finnishing the game "I control the world!"
"What you don't, If you did you control me too"
"Hey, hey, I control the world."
"It's me I control the world I have finnished the game."
"You ain't the only one."
Now that would happen to a storyline which has something like that.
And how bout destroying the world, No more gameplay?
Immortality, God Mode what a cheat.

adam of phyrexia · Sep 02, 2007, 11:31 PM // 23:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Magna_Carta

Then it would be odd when people would be saying after finishing the game "I control the world!"
"What you don't, If you did you control me too"
"Hey, hey, I control the world."
"It's me I control the world I have finished the game."
"You ain't the only one."
Now that would happen to a storyline which has something like that.
And how bout destroying the world, No more gameplay?
Immortality, God Mode what a cheat.

How narrowsighted.
Gaining ultimate power through something as simple as finishing the game is just stupid. True Power must be earned, and it can be, if the creators would allow it.
Imagine it:
Guild Wars finaly become the guild wars they were intended to be in the story.
Guilds and Players struggling over control of outposts, were they can hang their banners, make their own laws and build their buildings.
A single guild or alliance could grow into a nation, which other guilds might try to bring down. The leader of a mighty alliance would have the power of a virtual emperor.

Now the reason MMORPG's don't do this because you're giving players power and power can be used for good or for bad.
And a good player doesn't need any power, with all control relinquished to the staff the world remains in a peaceful state.
Give power to players of ill-intent and you could ruin the game for everyone.
Imagine sadistic high levels slaughtering noobies for amusement, guilds raising ridiculous taxes and issuing humiliating laws, which is all great of course if you're on the right side of the blade :-)

Man I'ld like to be on the right side of the blade